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Public Enemies is a podcast hosted by some of the more polarizing members of the Magic community. Jay Boosh, Dr. Jeebus, and Tangent come together to speak their minds and tell it how it is on a variety of magic topics. There will be no sugar coating here. Only real opinions from some of the most opinionated personalities in the game.
In this first episode the BAMF’s get together to discuss these questions:
Did WoTC make a huge mistake with NPH and should card bannings result?
Why is everyone freaking out about every commander card?
Brick and Morter stores versus Online Stores.
Do elves suck?
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http://www.twitter.com/JayBoosh — Jay Tuharsky
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Your Host(s): Tangent, Dr Jeebus, and Jay Boosh
Show’s Email: publicenemiesmtg@gmail.com
NOTE: This Podcast may contain explicit and adult only language in it.
Great first cast guys. Good dynamic between the three of you, I’ll definitely be listening every week. Keep it up!
I had a feeling this cast was going to be entertaining, and I was correct. Keep it up guys. I look forward to episode 2.
Pretty decent troll mtgcast. Almost succeeded in having me come here to feed the trolls. Fun times!
Ill feed the trolls. Funny that JayBoosh would bitch so much about CawBlade when he was the guy who admitted to playing Valakut, another broken deck.
On a more serious note, I dont think banning is going to be good overall for the player base. All these kiddies that finally got their playset of Stoneforge Mystics are going to get pissed when they can’t use it at their FNM. It will hurt more semi-casual FNM Standard players that invested into their caw-blade decks. If people aren’t playing standard at FNM’s I guess it will help, but it hasn’t been my experience.
Good episode guys (I’m still in the middle of it, but I’m going to go ahead and assume the rest is as good as the first half).
There seem to be some misconceptions about how long Caw Blade has been around (not just on your show, but everywhere). At one point, Jay talks about them bringing back swords, and says “…and then a deck comes out, and it’s uber-powerful, and you have 3 months of watching this deck be really good. And then you print another sword anyway, one that’s arguably better…and then it catches on, so you have 6 months now that you’ve been watching this happen, and you go, ‘I think what we’re gonna do is print a sword that’s really awesome, and then we’re gonna print basically a sword that’s on steroids…” This implies that the deck was around from the release of Sword of Body and Mind, but that’s not true at all.
Guys, the deck has been around for 4 months (4 months and 5 days, to be specific). That’s it.
Before Pro Tour Paris (Feb 10-13), there was no Stoneforge Mystic in the deck, and no swords in the deck. It was dubbed “Caw Go,” which debuted at Worlds in December, and is arguably an entirely different deck. Again, there were certainly no swords in the deck. The Caw Blade deck didn’t appear until Sword of Feast and Famine was available with Mirrodin Besieged. And of course, it was a new deck for the first few weeks, and very few people thought it was a problem because it was still new. People embraced it because it wasn’t Valakut/RUG/UB Control, which were considered the top decks at the time.
The first SCG Open it won was in DC on Feb 26-27, and still at this point it was too early to be considered a “problem.”
When exactly do you think Wizards had time to recognize this as a problem and change the contents New Phyrexia? Considering Aaron Forsythe’s comment about the NPH Event Decks going to the printers in September, I’d imagine New Phyrexia was locked in and unable to be modified long before the Caw Blade deck even appeared.
Compare to the last “over-powered” deck in Standard. Jund started dominating tournaments as early as late October 2009 (in fact, YMTGT Ep2 was published on Nov 3, 2009 and was called “the Jund Standard”). It continued this dominance all the way through the release of Rise of the Eldrazi in Spring 2010, and was arguably still a very, very good deck all the way until it rotated in October 2010. It put three copies in the top 8 of GP:DC at the end of May, which I believe may have been the beginning of the rise of Mythic and U/W Tap-Out as contenders to the Jund crown. From November through May alone (7 months), Jund was everywhere. Caw Blade has been around for a bit more than half that. I’m not arguing against potential bannings (in fact, I would love to see a format shake-up), but I want to put this deck in perspective when people compare it to Jund. If a diverse format is what is important to you—if the lack of diversity in Standard is the reason you think Caw Blade is worth bannings—then arguably Jund was worse, because it sucked diversity from the format for 7 months before anything really showed up to contend with it.
gotta admit i was pleasantly surprised with this. good stuff.
I really think Jace is the problem, and not stoneforge. Even if you banned stoneforege, you are probably looking at top 8′s all filled to the gills with UW, UB and RUG which will all still be running 4 Jaces. I think a big reason FNM attendance is down is because at this point without Jaces you basically can’t play, but people don’t want to buy the Jaces this close to his rotation. I agree with Joey, in terms of dominance, Jund was a bigger problem, but I think people dealt with it because you knew bloodbraid elves didn’t cost 100 dollars each in their prime. If you really didn’t like losing to jund, you could build a jund deck without taking out a mortgage.
We had a perfect storm where Jace turned out to be one of the most powerful cards in a long time and also in one of the least opened sets in recent memory. I’m not advocating Jace being banned, but if they did, that would really shake up the format. Stoneforge decks would still be good, but not unbeatable.
Loving the cast guys.